Monday, January 8, 2018

Working with DNA Triangulation

There are 23 chromosomes. this chart shows you the segments on Chrom. 5 that match David to Alissa, David Foxworth, you and me as you can see Allisa shares the whole segment with her father, you share more than 50% with you brother and Alissa, I share 28,876 cM's with Alisa and your brother, and Dennis Foxworth shares 16.64 with me, Allisa and David but you do not share that part of the chromosome . with me or Dennis. For Triangulation to work at least three distant cousins (more than third cousins) have to share at least 7 cM's. So there are two situations that work, Me Dennis and David, or Me Dennis and Alisa. in both situations we share a total of 16.64 cM's but Allisa does not have a profile at WikiTree so we cant use her so we take the example formula on the page at WinkiTree that explains Autosomal DNA Matches and we go to using Triangulation to confirm"Triangulation" we plug these numbers from this chart that we got at GEDmatch.com with the matches we got there. we take that formula shown here for ME DAVID AND DENNIS FOXWORTH- listed here

"Paternal relationship is confirmed To Raoul-31 by a triangulated group consisting of Dennis W. Foxworth GEDmatch A977934, Kevin Charles Lajiness GEDmatch M658673 and David H. RathbunGEDmatch M477872 sharing a >20cM segment on Chromosome 5 from 133931713 - 149442105, Overlap with the previous match"

Raoul-31 is the point person (Think that is John Baptist Raoul), that means he is the ancestor that we all have in common.(Chart Below)

We take this formula and we plug it in the child of the person we are confirming the DNA too. throughout the chain in the source section of the profile for example if the point person was our 5 great grandmother and it was your mother's mother's father's mother's father's mother's mother you would start with her daughter you would change paternal relationship to maternal relationship is confirmed and since the trail goes threw he son and then his daughter you would change pack to paternal relationship is confirmed in the formula language and so on and so forth not only for your trail but all tree trails of you and your othertwo GEDMatch.com people, ok thats a mouthful for what is realy easy.

Now if you go to the edit tab on the profile to mark the DNA as confirmed, two things the genealogy has to be marked as confident, I will add at least three sources then I will mark it confirmed with DNA, if you cant then more genealogy needs to be confirmed.

Now going back to the chart you and your brother and your niece share well over 7 cM's og segment on this and many other chromosomes from what I've seen so since you are less than the third cousin away you can confirm your Autosomal DNA simply using a different formula

Now If you please Ron I've taken a lot of time to exsplain this to you , so if you want you can plug in the formula for David's mother Betty and her mother Viola since I cannot, again for David edit in the source plug in the Triangulation formula above and mark Betty as confirmed with DNA the go-to Bettys edit plug in the triangulation formula in the source section of poth make sure you chang Paternal to Maternal then if you want you can fill in the above autosomal formula with your niece and one for your brother, you niece she is confirming to her father so it is paternal and then one for you and you brother in his and your profile as confirmed Maternally and then if you want but it is redundat you can purt one in your neice and one in your brothers to confirm your neice as a DNA confirmed Match to you, good enough, oh your neice doesnt have a profile by the way the profiles should be atleast private with public tree, again happy hunting

Kevin C Lajiness

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Where do I start, well um, I’ve been researching X-DNA

Where do I start, well um, I’ve been researching X-DNA for probably a decade now more specifically groups of people that are X-DNA matches to me and each other although the laws have changed from what I can tell and what is shared as far as details. What I understand for people that share it is more about the distance they share and details about the segment and the identity of that person but so there is no misunderstanding. The focus of my research is relationships of family groups not individuals to identify common Ancestry in particular the Most Recent Common Ancestor MRCA. My information for a starting point was people who relate to me and are or were publicly identified as an X-Match I used publicly sourced info to find their Dead Ancestors and built tree’s that I could then post On WikiTree and Ancestry. At first I made profiles that are made private since the people are living but since then the rules have changed and you can't do that without their permission but since i am not interested in living people and it requires their impute to confirm my findings I will just wait till rules change or the sights themself find a way to confirm them but at the very least as the genealogy and possibilities develop over time the files or trails will strengthen themselves, Now to dispel some people that would poo poo the whole exercise, number one as time goes by on Wikitree and as the relative populate themselves MRCA will change what might start out with 3 or 4 people with the same common ancestor at 13 generations might end up as 3 who are 5th cousins. I heard people say X-DNA is no go for medieval proof, to answer that question I’ll refer to what 23 and me says, “ If you groups are consistent that is to say one is a subgroup of another one or both things can be true, you share ancient roots or you relate through a long line of female to female ancestry” another thing I would like to clear up is because I’ve posted it as DNA research it is really relationship possibilities based on DNA research and probabilities based on process of elimination, let me give you an example say Ancestry suggest DNA relatives and some are Autosomal DNA matches and two or three are X-DNA I have two matches that suggest additional children of John Wigton Fleming and I do the genealogy and it check out to him, but the only way they work out is they go through his wife to her grandmother I think Jane Drury, and I fine a third X-DNA match that is a complete maternal trail to Jane Drury, they are all related to each other and are say 8th cousins and have been on Wikitree long enough to have much of the tree’s filled in. Now you check there relationship with each other without being connected through John Fleming and the closest you get is 23 generation back if at all, well that may be of interest th people studying Pocahontas or the Earls of Wigton, but beyond that you match to the known children of John or his wife siblings as I do, at some point it becomes more than a probability, the DNA usually doesn't lie and the stronger the Genealogy the higher the probability, there are other factors that may come into play because there is a chance of a strait Maternal line of connection mitochondrial might come as a bonus as well as Y-DNA when a Father to son is in play because Males can only get the X-DNA from their mothers

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